and approach to government. and, you know, substance will save it for c-span. >> you know, to the second part of your question, i guess my reaction is that -- i say this as someone who was born and raised in louisiana. i don't think there is any significance voter fraud in this country. widespread organized voter fraud. i think the bush justice department found 400 individual cases in eight years so that works out to one case per state per year which seems to me, you know, fairly light. so i think a lot of what's going on, do i think that a lot of republicans and conservatives, do i think if you gave them shots of sodium pentathol and wired them up to polygraph machine and asked them is there a significant vote fraud problem in this country, i think overwhelmingly they would say yes and pass that lie detector test. now i don't think there really is but i think they're convinced of it. but i think there is some political opportunism that's taking place out there as well. and i don't really -- i mean if glen wants